03. Pediatric Hero: Building Safe Spaces for Kid’s Emotions with Dr. Mark Sloane

Welcome to Pediatric Meltdown, the podcast for busy pediatricians who want to better understand children’s emotional health, behaviors, and gain the skills and knowledge to help them thrive. I am your host, Lia Gaggino. In this episode, I brought in Dr. Mark Sloane. He is a board-certified pediatrician and an adolescent medicine specialist.

Let’s dive into Dr. Mark’s story of how important it is to build a safe space for kids with mental illnesses and how to get involved in your community to help with kids’ healing process. This is a movement that is not restricted to medical practitioners alone, everybody can make an impact on kids’ lives and we are all in this together.

[00:01 – 11:02] Opening Segment

  • Introducing today’s guest, Dr. Mark Sloane
  • Dr. Mark talks about his career
  • He wasn’t ready to practice because of limited training
  • He did ADHD-related work
  • Worked in a Trauma Center
  • Most moms were exposed to drugs, alcohol and domestic violence
  • How can we help kids with their functional outcomes?
  • Working across different systems
  • How do we achieve better outcomes and success?

[11:03 – 28:11] Building Safe Spaces for Kids’ Emotions

  • Dr. Mark talks about continuing to improve the medication process dealing with kid’s mental illness
  • Looking for a holy grail pay off
  • How do we make things safe for kids with trauma?
  • Dr. Mark talks about using the same med-model on kids of different ages
  • Some families have no problems with their older kids but struggle on the younger ones
  • Kids being traumatized by the system
  • Getting compared to their siblings
  • Where do kids feel safe?
  • With school, teachers and their doctors
  • Helping them remember somebody they trusted
  • The Power of Adult’s Resilience
  • If a kid has an adult that is crazy about them, this will help them big time with their healing process

[28:12 – 38:36] Collaborating with Other People

  • Medicine and Prescriptions are just not enough
  • Medicine only works to a certain extent
  • Anybody can make an impact on kids’ recovery process
  • You don’t have to be a psychiatrist
  • Dr. Mark talks about bringing in different people to help with primary care work for kids
  • Making connections
  • Schools need to work with doctors and vice versa
  • How do you get everybody on the table?
  • Having the right infrastructure buildings and personnel
  • We will all benefit from doing it. It’s hard but worth it!

[38:37 – 44:40] Closing Segment

  • There are so many ways that we can help and support these programs
  • We are all in this together
  • Final words from me and Dr. Mark

Tweetable Quotes:

“If a kid has one adult that’s irrationally crazy about them that can matter and that’s enough.” – Dr. Mark Sloane

“Primary care has been traumatized and the answer is relational change by reaching out to other people to help us mend our own trauma” – Dr. Lia Gaggino

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Dr. Lia Gaggino has worked as a pediatrician for over 30 years on the west side of Michigan. During her career as a primary care physician, she has been privileged to care for children and adolescents, and know that their success is closely tied to mental wellness.

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  • Genetics
  • healthcare disparities and inequalities
  • LGBTQIA+
  • Medications
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  • OCD
  • Other
  • Pain
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