Who will heal the healers? Managing physician burnout is a tall order. And yet when both Dr. Tyra Fainstad and Dr. Adrienne Mann found themselves going through difficult life-chapters, they saw a need in the system that had not been addressed. Their program, Better Together, is for the medical community that may feel isolated or may feel like there’s no outlet. Even though there are definite differences between a Coach and a Physician, when listening to the doctors speak about their program, it seems so logical that the two would work hand in hand with one another. If you’re dealing with burnout or know someone who is, you’ll want to take a listen.
[00:30 -23:04] Opening Segment
- Dr. Gaggino introduces us to Dr.Tyra Fainstad and Dr. Adrienne Mann
- We learn about their journey into medicine and being a life coach.
- They found that burnout was their common thread.
- The difference between Coaching and Therapy
[23:05 – 30:54] How a “Cute Little Study” grew into the “Better Together” program?
- Web based program with 3 ways of participation; (Zoom, write in on the website and weekly modules)
- When they first started, 100 people signed up and that told them how much it was needed.
- Although many didn’t do the work, they actually listened and benefited from the recorded Zooms
[30:55 -56:28] The 3 “Better Together” factors
- Emotional Exhaustion, Depersonalization, Personal Ethikasy (Accomplishment)
- Burnout is 2-10 times higher in women vs men
- Should a program like this be required for interns?
[56:29 59:35] What would you tell your “Intern-self”
- If you knew then what you know now… would you have even been ready to hear it?
- Are you grateful for your anxiety?
- “There’s No Right Way”
[59:36 – 1:04:08] Closing segment Takeaway
You can reach Dr. Tyra Fainstad
Facebook: Tyra Fainstad | Facebook
Instagram: @tyraindenver
Twitter: @TyraFainstadMD
You can reach Dr. Adrienne Mann
Instagram: @amw1983
Twitter: @AMannimalMD
Resources:
Better Together website
www.bettertogetherphysiciancoaching.com
Life Coach School
Book mentioned:
“Lessons in Chemistry” by Betty Garmus
Other episodes you may like:
Episode #108 Physician Moral Injury; Healing the Healer
Episode #54 Physician Burn out and Suicide: Wounded Healers
Key quotes for Twitter:
“But in the end, we actually moved the needle four points with just our 50 in the intervention group. So, what that tells us is that our intervention is really powerful and probably we are underestimating even the full impact of it given our power analysis” … Dr. Adrienne Mann
“Physicians not being depressed, not being anxious, not having suicidal thoughts and not leaving their jobs. So, the retention argument is real. And I think, once there’s a cost argument, it’ll be really easy to make a case for institutions paying for this kind of work for us”… Dr. Tyra Fainstad
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